Fifteen years ago, I was introduced to a young man who had escaped from Paris. Paris? Yes, Paris. He was the oldest son of a father who was an orthodox Muslim. They were quite well off. He was not too sure of his father's business. He was 20, had excellent grades and was a top athlete. After he graduated, his father informed him it was now time for him to go back to his town of origin and study to become an Imam.

However, he was raised as a Parisian, speaking perfect French as well as Arabic. He studied the Koran but as he grew up he contrasted his world of Christian sophistication with his duties and attitudes of a Muslim cleric. No comparison, Unknown to his father, he took increments of "spending" money from the ATM card his father gave him and instead of living expenses he had saved the money until when he was to return to his Arabic roots, he traded in his plane ticket for one to London.

I won't detail how he changed his identity and wound up in NYC, and eventually the heartland.
Here is his view of Islam: (I have edied it for brevity).

"Islam is based on virtue; the very word means 'submission.'' It is truly not a religion, nor is it merely a set of beliefs but it is an entire way of life. The Koran doesn't simply govern everyone's conduct it is extended to all aspects of society. It regulates law, war, peace, education, economics, sexual conduct, trade and family. Sharia governs everything. It mitigates what it considers the rot of all other beliefs."

Posted by  $  allosaur 22 hours, 34 minutes ago
Here is me a mean ole' dino's point of view. 
The USA with its constitutional freedoms is not compatible with 
the Koran's religious demand for a worldwide caliphate 
and a whole bunch of other Muslim crap, such as 
murderous "martyrdom," 
"honor" killings, 
requiring four male bystanders to witness a rape 
to name a few. 
The solution? We stay over here and we make them stay over there. 
Europe should do the same if they want to preserve what's left 
of the crumbling cultures that (once upon a time?) 
made each of their specific countries unique.


I don't care if my point of view makes me an Islamophob[e] 
who ain't into no di-VERsiTEEE as I once heard a libtard sing it as his mantra. 
A mantra libs dearly cling to as being more important than little girls 
stuck with knives by people who say, "This is for Allah."
Fear is why I bought guns up until the 
  "I dream of open borders" Evil Hag lost the election. 
I still buy ammo just in case.
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Posted by  Herb7734 17 hours, 24 minutes ago
Islam, whether radicalized or not will never be compatible with western thought. 
Your solution will work until Islam feels strong enough to go after the "Great Satan." 
When that happens, even the libs will feel the need to keep a good head on their shoulders.
It is not inevitable, but it is likely. 
When that likelihood happens, there will be no surrender 
only death to one side or the other, 
since I cannot see Islam going for an armistice or a total surrender.
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Posted by  $  allosaur 16 hours, 24 minutes ago
I admit that my solution is a temporary fix. 
What you predict as likely I think is inevitable. 
Iran will eventually will have nukes (if not already) 
and will be in a sharing mood whenever the day comes 
when it's inclusively surrounded by a regional caliphate 
commanded by the written word of Allah's prophet to take over the world. 
"This is for Allah."
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Posted by coaldigger 1 day, 3 hours ago
There are over 2 billion Muslims in the world. 
They are as described by your young acquaintance and by their ideology, 
an enemy to all infidels. 
Those that pose in a peaceful manner form a cover for those that do not. 
There is nothing similar to unite the non-Muslim world, 
therefore they are an irresistible tide that are 
about 28% of the world's population and are growing at a faster rate. 


    Western societies belief in tolerance, 
equality under the law and individual liberty 
is easily infiltrated and exploited and there is currently, 
no solution without the most fundamental changes to our world or theirs. 


Our leaders in the West have no solution other than 
to try to stave off the fall in their lifetime, 
so that is what they are going to do.
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Posted by  Herb7734 18 hours ago
I know that what I'm about to type is going to sound racist, but truth is truth. 
Eventually, it has to come down to Islam or everyone else. 
If the "everyone else " wants to survive, they will have to 
treat adherents like persons with an incurable plague. 
Since the western cultures will never get to that point
until they are the verge of annihilation, 
things don't look cheery for the eventual future..
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Posted by coaldigger 15 hours, 42 minutes ago
Thanks. I think that was what I meant to say. 
The "turn the other cheek" lambs are going to become veal. 
The are, however, barbarians in every culture, 
or at least those that will treat the enemy as an enemy. 
If you ever get a chance visit mid-continent America.
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Between the Koran and Sharia, if one is to believe, 
there is no possible way that any Muslim true believer 
can ever be at peace with any other philosophy or way of life. 

All of those seeking peace will inevitably be frustrated 
because they are dealing with shadows. 
A charade being put on by Muslims for the benefit, 
eventually of themselves. 

All those Western peacemakers know that, 
yet they continue to participate in a game wher
e the rules all favor their opponents. 

Everyone, Obama, Trump, Bush, Clinton, knows this, 
yet they continue to go through the motions 
-- and my question is, why on earth do they continue to do it.?